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    Xia/Shang Chinses in Olmec Mesoamerica

    Post by Maximus on Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:23 pm


    Some researchers have argued that the Olmec civilization came into existence with the help of Chinese refugees, particularly at the end of the Shang dynasty.[19] In 1975, Betty Meggers of the Smithsonian Institution argued that the Olmec civilization originated due to Shang Chinese influences around 1200 BC.[20] In a 1996 book, Mike Xu, with the aid of Chen Hanping, claimed that the very same La Venta celts discussed above actually bore Chinese characters.[21][22] These claims are unsupported by mainstream Mesoamerican researchers.[23] The evidence relied on by Mike Xu, including the coincidence of markings on Olmec pottery with those on Chinese oracle bone writings, the significance of jade in both cultures and the shared knowledge of the position of true North, was discussed in an article by Claire Liu in 1997 [24]


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    Re: Xia/Shang Chinses in Olmec Mesoamerica

    Post by Maximus on Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:26 pm

    http://www.chinese.tcu.edu/www_chinese3_tcu_edu.htm

    TRANSPACIFIC CONTACTS?
    by
    Dr. Mike Xu
    Texas Christian University
    EMAIL: m.xu@tcu.edu
    The following materials can be used upon requests.


    the Pacific Currents


    Olmec Jade Earpools (900 B.C.) Ancient Chinese "Bei"(Jade) Longshan Jade Discs (2000 B.C.)


    Olmec Jade Ritual Sharpener (900 - 600 B.C.) Liangzhu Jade Ritual "Cong" (2000 B.C.)



    Olmec Stone Statues

    Aztec Stone Statue
    (A.D. 1000 - 500)

    Shang Jade Statue
    (1600 - 1200 B.C.)



    Olmec Jade Ritual Motif

    Olmec Stone Ritual Motif

    Liangzhu Jade Ritual Motif
    (All with four dots and a diamond in the middle?)

    Olmec Cleft-head Motif Ancient Chinese Cleft-head Motif
    (900 - 600 B.C.) (4000 B.C.)
    La Venta Offering No. 4, Mexico (1100 B.C - 800 B.C.)

    1 2 3 4 5 6
    Compared the close-up shots for all six celts of La Venta Offering No. 4

    Consecutive Motifs (top-down) on the Celt 4, 5, 6 compared with Shang Writings of China (1500 B.C. - 1000 B.C.)

    Olmec Motifs Shang Writing Modern Character / English














    Olmec Motifs Shang Writing Modern Character / English





    Olmec Motifs Shang Writing Modern Character / English







    Olmec Ritual symbols (St. Andrew's Cross?)


    Shang Ritual Symbols Liangzhu Ritual Symbols


    Altar symbol for both sites of the Pacific?


    Addtional Links

    ABC NEWS
    http://abcnews.go.com/ABC2000/abc2000science/newworld991019.html
    (Early Crossings: Scientists Debate Who Sailed to the New World First )

    NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC NEWS
    http://www.ngnews.com/news/1999/10/100599/mesochina_6185.asp
    (Ancient Writing Links China and Mesoamerica )

    THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY
    http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/01/001stengel.htm ( The Diffusionists Have Landed )

    DISCOVER MAGAZINE
    http://www.discover.com/feb_00/breakchinatown.html
    (Chinatown, 1000 B.C. )

    TCU MAGAZINE
    http://www.magazine.tcu.edu/tcumagazine/articles/1999-04-AC-02.htm
    (A Brave New World)

    DR. GEORGE CARTER (TEXAS A & M UNIVERSITY)
    http://www.epigraphy.org/ancient_scripts.htm
    (ON READING ANCIENT SCRIPTS)
    http://www.journaldequebec.com/TopoDecouvertesArchives/sept23_chinois.html
    ( Des Chinois en Amérique )

    THE JAPAN TIMES
    http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news141.htm
    (Chinese may have gone to Americas 3,000 years ago)

    SMU
    http://dailycampus.smu.edu/HTMLPages/Spring00/03-30-00/news_0330.html
    (Speakers discuss historical controversy)
    http://dailycampus.smu.edu/HTMLPages/Spring00/03-31-00/news4_0331.html
    (Speakers discuss ancient cultures)

    Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, BYU
    http://www.farmsresearch.com/member/insights/aug_99/travel.html
    (New Journal Studies Ancient Transoceanic Travel)

    Star-Telegram
    http://newslibrary.krmediastream.com/cgi-bin/search/st TCU SCHOLAR LINKS ANCIENT CHINESE, MEXICAN CULTURE )

    DONALD CYR
    http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue14/ar14amerwriters.html
    (AMERICA'S ANCIENT WRITERS)

    http://www.alien.de/UnknownReality/08-1999.htm#3
    (Unknown Reality)

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